Pacific Ring Weave


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#46

isnt that we were talking about the floating island based on pacific ocean?
or you just want to built one near malaysia?


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#49

ok i got the wrong memories about your ID and goals


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#51

Spark I am glad you took the time to post this very promising angle here on this neutral space.
I’d like to think of this site as an offshore moon of seasteading.

I also noticed you brought together the collaborative efforts of @KimCowdroy and @GerdWeiland

@yunfan in China accidentally stumbling upon this thread also instantly understood your point of an unlimited, illited, raft weaving.

It would appear this goes in the direction of vastly improving on Rishie Sowa s Plastic Bottle Mangrove Island


#52

Can we invite Gerd Weiland to this forum ?


#53

Absolutely I believe he may feel more comfortable to share his experience


#54

After all he is the only one (i know about) who has been there and done that on a 20m scale…


#55

I don’t know, I wanted to ask him to share more about the Kron Tiki,
how big was Spiral Island in Mejico?


#56

Kon-Creaky was the name of the Weiland vessel…if i recall it right…

Gerd seems to have turned his back on the TSI forum…


#57

Creaky, makes more sense.

I mention the plastic bottle island in Mejico because it was also quiet flexible on the edges, but mostly rigid in the center.


#58

yea to have mangrove roots and fishing net the only fiber component that holds the stuff together (Richi Sowa) is not so great - but pepp that up with tire weave, and cement composite components could work to some point…The problem with those guys is they get so obsessed with a single material - they see everything else as a threat to their “idea” - the solution should be rather expected from a “smart combination of materials” ( some 200) - than a single material.

It can not be all about tires, basalt rebar, geopolymer binder, etc… etc… New-VENICE™ will be built from a smart combination of materials - obviously…


#59

imagen
This appears to be intentionally more of a boat or raft than a matt.

imagen

But both Richi Sowa and Con Creky are examples of what could be filler or even joint tissue in a floating cluster

imagen

Of course neither tire weaving or plastic bottle sequestration are labor-free, therefore the product has a cost (Richi Sowa’s Spiral island i.e. cost was about 3 months per square meter )
3dprintingland

What is the cost of the most approximate composite solution (ref. Magdalena?)


#60

@MatiasVolco - i see that exactly the same way - if i would be put in charge to upgrade that totora island to a point where it can float in the ocean - i would make a ring weave around the rim and bottom to hold it together and avoid the material to float apart…then i would spray some floating rock over the ring weave…finally put a couple of concrete beams with reforcement as a keel … something like that…

Or in short i would build it out to a volco ramform…without the inhabitants being interrupted in their dayly life at any point…

… it is not either or and there is no “versus discussion” it is “all of it in a convenient combination”


#61

Is this Unlimited Extensibility what permits the multiple approaches at the same time? If so it could allow for upgrading without interruption,


#62

And this is where you do not build a engineered structure like a ship hull anymore, this is where you venture off in a discipline that is between marine engineering, landscape gardening, architecture, sculpture, etc.etc. - and it is not about “Pacific Ring Weave” anymore…


#63

When there is no distinction between architecture and urbanism because we have to build the landscape

therefore buiding this type of urban environments should be radically easier and faster than it has been so far

imagen


#64

and it is a ambient which does not have pre-existing hills, and valleys, all will be manmade…enhanced nature…